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    hey i just built a new rig for my vitoria using the original boom and lower section and a flexable graphite top section, needless to say its nice and will work beutifully but i need to figure out a way to make a new gooseneck and vang system how can i make a good one from scratch. cost effectiveness is key. thanks i really appreciate any help

    i love tinkering with these boats it takes up time i'm sure my girfreind is going to hate it soon

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    Express 27 ..... I love that boat!


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    i sailed on expresses for about 4 years they are alot of fun i've skippered it quite often now the guy sold it and bought a j-29 and he got me a carbon fibre spinaker pole[^]i run foredeck on his boats. o yeah and any ideas on the gooseneck?

    i love tinkering with these boats it takes up time i'm sure my girfreind is going to hate it soon

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    Hey Express,

    This is one item where I think you are best to just suck it up and buy the item rather than build one for yourself. This vang will work:

    http://www.gbmy.com/112.jpg

    It is $26 at Great Basin. you can trim the body to a smaller size (the body is aluminum and the hole for the screws run all the way through). You can trim the vang rod to whatever length you need as well....

    If you are not willing to pay $26 for this vang, you could try one of the methods shown in the US1M construction tips manual (page 44):

    http://www.amya.org/us1mconst.pdf

    I have a feeling that if you scratch build, you are probalby still going to spend $10 on supplies and when you are done, it will probably not work as well as the SailsEtc goosneck nor will it have the nice low friction and thumbscrew adjustment....

    The choice is yours, but for me, the vang is very critical for good performance and this is not an area where you want to skimp by with a poor performing design....

    - Will

    Will Gorgen

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    Here's the gooseneck on Yankee III. .030 aluminum. Wrap a 1" x (say) 6" strip in a U around a 1/8 rod. Clamp in vise with open end down, just under the midpoint of the rod. Press down on the top and squeeze the vise jaws, letting them slip down the side and forming the strip around the rod. Drill and bolt #2. Bend the "ears" back, then around a rod the same diameter as the mast using the same technique. Make cutouts for looks.

    Put a right angle in a piece of 1/8" aluminum rod. Slide a thick nylon washer up to the "L" Cut to length and bash a flat on either end. Drill 1/16 for boom and vang pins. Assemble and bolt onto mast.

    The vang is made from R/C airplane parts and a ball-bearing fishing swivel.

    Cheers,

    Earl


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    For a Vic gooseneck, and any other Vic question or help, check out the Victoria Resource Center (http://www.victoriarc.org/).

    The SailTech gooseneck is too big for the Vic. but GBMY has a Vic. kit (http://gbmy.com/vic.html).

    In any case I would check out the Resource center first, thats whay i did with my Vic.

    Hope This helps.....
    Gio

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    A litle advice on what not to do. If you are fabricating your own do not be tempted to use the little model airplane nylon ball joints. They look ideal but I found then too stiff in light air.

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    Don
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    yeah like i'm hoping to have the rig ready for the spring and i'm making my own sails i just don't really understand how the boom can have full movement without being a ball joint, and how the vang works as well. it all kinda of confuses me and i want to have a grasp on it all before i try to build my own multi hull this summer ntm i want to get my vic on the water again. but is this all stuff i can buy at my hardware store or at specialty stores on the web?

    i love tinkering with these boats it takes up time i'm sure my girfreind is going to hate it soon

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    Don, I was suggesting trimming down the standard SailsEtc gooseneck to an appropriate size, but the GBMY victoria gooseneck looks ideal. And $8? Come on express, you can't beat that!!!! (OK, so they are out of stock right now..... but I bet they will have more soon)

    - Will

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> but the GBMY victoria gooseneck looks ideal. And $8? Come on express, you can't beat that!!!! (OK, so they are out of stock right now..... but I bet they will have more soon)

    - Will

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    Will
    Those are the kind of ball joints I was refering to. They seem to work nice in all directions but I found them a bit stiff.


    Express
    Two joints- one with a vertical axis and one with a horizontal axis. I use 5/16 x 1/8 ball bearings for the vertical but I think know that it is overkill.I think if you just drill a hole and make sure the pin is loose(but not too loose) you'll do fine. I'll try and attach a picture. It said it worked- we'll see.

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    EDIT
    That dosen't show it very well but there is a pin(joint) right in front of where everything joins the carbon part of the boom. I have a milling machine and can make all the pretty parts but a bent piece of sheet aluminum would work just as well.

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